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DOJ’s ‘deepfake’ concerns over Biden interview audio highlights AI misuse worries

Releasing an audio recording of a special counsel’s interview with President Joe Biden could spur deepfakes and disinformation that trick Americans, the Justice Department said, conceding the U.S. government could not stop the misuse of artificial intelligence ahead of this year’s election.

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  • The Justice Department expressed concerns that releasing an audio recording of President Joe Biden’s special counsel interview could lead to deepfake disinformation, tricking Americans ahead of the election.
  • This concern was highlighted in a court filing to justify keeping the recording private, emphasizing the potential misuse of AI and the limits of federal government intervention.
  • The conservative group suing for the recording’s release, led by Mike Howell of the Heritage Foundation, accused the Justice Department of trying to protect Biden from embarrassment due to his occasional memory lapses.
  • The Justice Department argued that making the audio public could deter witnesses from cooperating in future investigations and complicate the protection of sensitive law enforcement files.
  • Senator Mark Warner supported releasing the audio with safeguards like watermarking to detect alterations.
  • Special counsel Robert Hur concluded that no criminal charges were warranted regarding Biden’s handling of classified documents, noting Biden’s memory limitations.
  • The Justice Department’s deepfake concerns were raised in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit from media outlets and other groups, including the Heritage Foundation and the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
  • Experts acknowledged the legitimacy of the Justice Department’s concerns but noted the potential for these arguments to hinder the release of original content.
  • The Justice Department’s stance on AI misuse in this case may set a precedent for future legal arguments in similar situations.

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DOJ’s ‘deepfake’ concerns over Biden interview audio highlights AI misuse worries

Newslooks- WASHINGTON (AP) —

Releasing an audio recording of a special counsel’s interview with President Joe Biden could spur deepfakes and disinformation that trick Americans, the Justice Department said, conceding the U.S. government could not stop the misuse of artificial intelligence ahead of this year’s election.

A senior Justice Department official raised the concerns in a court filing on Friday that sought to justify keeping the recording under wraps. The Biden administration is seeking to convince a judge to prevent the release of the recording of the president’s interview, which focused on his handling of classified documents.

FILE – Department of Justice Special Counsel Robert Hur listens during a House Judiciary Committee hearing, March 12, 2024, on Capitol Hill in Washington.The Justice Department says its concerned that releasing audio of President Joe Biden’s interview with a special counsel about his handling of classified documents could lead to deepfakes that trick Americans. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin, File)

The admission highlights the impact the AI-manipulated disinformation could have on voting and the limits of the federal government’s ability to combat it.

A conservative group that’s suing to force the release of the recording called the argument a “red herring.”

Mike Howell of the Heritage Foundation accused the Justice Department of trying to protect Biden from potential embarrassment. A transcript of the interview showed the president struggling to recall certain dates and confusing details but showing a deep recall of information at other times.

“They don’t want to release this audio at all,” said Howell, executive director of the group’s oversight project. “They are doing the kitchen sink approach and they are absolutely freaked out they don’t have any good legal argument to stand on.”

The Justice Department declined to comment Monday beyond its filing.

President Joe Biden waves as he arrives on Air Force One at Westchester County Airport in White Plains, N.Y., Monday, June 3, 2024. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

Biden asserted executive privilege last month to prevent the release of the recording of his two-day interview in October with special counsel Robert Hur. The Justice Department has argued witnesses might be less likely to cooperate if they know their interviews might become public. It has also said that Republican efforts to force the audio’s release could make it harder to protect sensitive law enforcement files.

Sen. Mark Warner, the Democratic chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told The Associated Press that he was concerned that the audio might be manipulated by bad actors using AI. Nevertheless, the senator said, it should be made public.

“You’ve got to release the audio,” Warner said, though it would need some “watermarking components, so that if it was altered” journalists and others “could cry foul.”

FILE – A photograph of a transcript of a recorded interview between Special Counsel Robert Hur and others, and President Joe Biden, is photographed March 12, 2024 in Washington. The Justice Department says its concerned that releasing audio of President Joe Biden’s interview with a special counsel about his handling of classified documents could lead to deepfakes that trick Americans.(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File)

In a lengthy report, Hur concluded no criminal charges were warranted in his handling of classified documents. His report described the 81-year-old Democrat’s memory as “hazy,” “poor” and having “significant limitations.” It noted that Biden could not recall such milestones as when his son Beau died or when he served as vice president.

Biden’s aides have long been defensive about the president’s age, a trait that has drawn relentless attacks from Donald Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee, and other Republicans. Trump is 77.

The Justice Department’s concerns about deepfakes came in a court papers filed in response to legal action brought under the Freedom of Information Act by a coalition of media outlets and other groups, including the Heritage Foundation and the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

An attorney for the media coalition, which includes The Associated Press, said Monday that the public has the right to hear the recording and weigh whether the special counsel “accurately described” Biden’s interview.

“The government stands the Freedom of Information Act on its head by telling the Court that the public can’t be trusted with that information,” the attorney, Chuck Tobin, wrote in an email.

Bradley Weinsheimer, an associate deputy attorney general for the Justice Department, acknowledged “malicious actors” could easily utilize unrelated audio recordings of Hur and Biden to create a fake version of the interview.

FILE – Special Counsel Robert Hur listens to recorded remarks of President Joe Biden during a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee in the Rayburn Office Building on Capitol Hill in Washington, March 12, 2024. The Justice Department says its concerned that releasing audio of President Joe Biden’s interview with a special counsel about his handling of classified documents could lead to deepfakes that trick Americans.(AP Photo/Nathan Howard, File)

However, he argued, releasing the actual audio would make it harder for the public to distinguish deepfakes from the real one.

“If the audio recording is released, the public would know the audio recording is available and malicious actors could create an audio deepfake in which a fake voice of President Biden can be programed to say anything that the creator of the deepfake wishes,” Weinsheimer wrote.

Experts in identifying AI-manipulated content said the Justice Department had legitimate concerns in seeking to limit AI’s dangers, but its arguments could have far-reaching consequences.

“If we were to go with this strategy, then it is going to be hard to release any type of content out there, even if it is original,” said Alon Yamin, co-founder of Copyleaks, an AI-content detection service that primarily focuses on text and code.

Nikhel Sus, deputy chief counsel at Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said he has never seen the government raise concerns about AI in litigation over access to government records. He said he suspected such arguments could become more common.

“Knowing how the Department of Justice works, this brief has to get reviewed by several levels of attorneys,” Sus said. “The fact that they put this in a brief signifies that the Department stands behind it as a legal argument, so we can anticipate that we will see the same argument in future cases.”

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