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GOP candidates vie for 1st position in Milwaukee debate

The first Republican 2024 presidential debate on Wednesday opened with a focus on the U.S. economy, as eight contenders jockeyed for position behind the absent front-runner, Donald Trump. “Our country is in decline,” said Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who stands in a distant second place behind Trump but ahead of the rest of the field. “We must reverse Bidenomics so that middle-class families have a chance to succeed again.” While the economy has shown surprising resilience, defying recession predictions with a robust labor market, polls show many voters – including a plurality of those who supported Democratic President Joe Biden in 2020 – feel the economy has worsened during his first three years in office amid persistent inflation. With the election more than 14 months away, Trump, the former president, holds a wide lead among Republican voters in opinion polls despite his four criminal indictments. The Associated Press has the story:

GOP candidates vie for 1st position in Milwaukee debate

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Republican presidential candidates opened the first Republican primary debate Wednesday night with broadsides against President Joe Biden — and each other — as they vied to be the leading alternative to front-runner Donald Trump. With Trump absent, Republican candidates including tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and U.S. Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, who have enjoyed a bump in some state and national polls in recent weeks, were seeking to displace DeSantis as the most plausible Trump alternative.

Republican presidential candidates, from left, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former Vice President Mike Pence, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, businessman Vivek Ramaswamy, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum stand on stage before a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

“Do you want incremental reform, or do you want a revolution?” asked Ramaswamy, a 38-year-old political neophyte who has cast himself as an outsider even as he has been perhaps Trump’s biggest defender among the Republican candidates.

DeSantis, for his part, was looking to arrest a slow but steady slide in the polls. Aides and allies view the debate as an opportunity to introduce the governor to millions of voters who have yet to tune into the primary process and to shift the narrative away from turmoil that has gripped his campaign in recent weeks, including a significant staffing shake-up.

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie talks with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis during a break in the Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

While Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is running a distant second to the former president, was expected to be the top target as the front-runner on the stage, the candidates focused their early attacks on tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, who has been rising in the polls.

“Now is not the time for on-the-job training. We don’t need to bring in a rookie. We don’t need to bring in people without experience,” said former Vice President Mike Pence, who opened the debate on a fiery note as he tried to position himself as the most experienced man in stage

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has emerged as a fierce critic of Trump, also laced into Ramaswamy.

Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy speaks as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis listens during a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

“I’ve had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT standing up here,” he said, calling him an “amateur.”

“Give me a hug just like you did to Obama,” Ramaswamy shot back — a reference to Christie’s embrace of the former president after a storm ravaged his state.

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, the only woman on stage, tried to rise above the fray.

“If you want something said, ask a man, if you want something done, ask a woman,” she said.

Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley speaks during a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

Trump wasn’t on stage in Milwaukee but was expected to be a central figure nonetheless. Fox News moderators Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum were expected to press his rivals to articulate how they would differ in style and substance from the former president, who holds a commanding early lead in the race.

With less than five months until the Iowa caucuses jumpstart the GOP presidential nomination process, the debate is a critical opportunity for lower-polling candidates to introduce themselves to millions of voters, many of whom are just beginning to pay attention to the race. The pressure is greatest for DeSantis who announced his campaign in May to great fanfare but has since struggled to gain traction and is now fighting to maintain his distant second-place status.

North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum speaks as Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., listens during a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

Also on stage were South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, who was hospitalized after hurting his Achilles tendon but chose to participate nonetheless.

The primetime event was unfolding at a moment of reckoning for the Republican Party.

Trump is the prohibitive early front-runner in the race, raising serious questions about whether the party will have much of a competitive primary. Yet Trump’s vulnerabilities in a general election are clear, particularly after four criminal indictments that charge him with hoarding classified documents, conspiring to overturn the 2020 election and making hush money payments to a porn actor and other women.

On Thursday, Trump is set to travel to Georgia to be booked again on criminal charges.

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson speaks during a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

Yet Trump’s standing in the primary has only increased as the charges have mounted, leaving the GOP on track — barring a stunning realignment — to nominate a candidate who would enter the race against Biden, a Democrat, in a potentially weak position. Polling this month from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found 64% of Americans are unlikely to support Trump if he is the GOP nominee, including 53% who say they would definitely not support him and 11% who say they would probably not support him in November 2024.

The debate was being held at the Fiserv Forum in downtown Milwaukee, the arena that is home to the Milwaukee Bucks basketball team. The city will also be the site of next summer’s Republican convention, a sign of the state’s premier battleground status.

The Republican National Committee had set polling and donor thresholds and required participants to sign a loyalty pledge in order to qualify.

Trump had long said he felt it would be foolish to participate, given his dominant lead in the race.

Republican presidential candidates former Vice President Mike Pence and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis stand on stage before a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

His decision to boycott was nonetheless a blow to the network, which had wooed him privately and publicly to appear. Instead, Trump pre-recorded an interview with ex-Fox host Tucker Carlson that was posted to the platform formerly known as Twitter right before the debate kicked off as counter-programming.

“Do I sit there for an hour or two hours, whatever it’s going to be, and get harassed by people that shouldn’t even be running for president? Should I be doing that at a network that isn’t particularly friendly to me?” Trump said in the 46-minute interview.

“I’m going to have all these people screaming at me, shouting questions at me, all of which I love answering, I love doing. But it doesn’t make sense to do them so I’m taking a pass,” he said.

Republican presidential candidates former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, and Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., stand on stage before a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX News Channel Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)

Even in Trump’s absence, his presence was expected to be felt at the debate. MacCallum had made clear she would press his rivals to respond to Trump’s indictments, telling Vanity Fair that, “It will absolutely be incumbent upon them to address” them.

In a statement, Trump senior campaign adviser Chris LaCivita declared that Trump had “already won this evening’s debate because everything is going to be about him.”

“In fact, tonight’s Republican undercard event really shouldn’t even be called a debate, but rather an audition to be a part of President Trump’s team in his second term,” he quipped.

The stage is set at Fiserv Forum before the first 2023 Republican presidential debate in Milwaukee on Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023. (Mike De Sisti/Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel via AP)

In his absence, DeSantis’ campaign had prepared for the Florida governor to be the debate’s top target as the front-runner on stage.

In a memo sent to donors and supporters over the weekend, DeSantis campaign manager James Uthmeier said they were “fully prepared for Governor DeSantis to be the center of attacks,” casting the contest as “a two-man race” for the nomination.

Uthmeier said DeSantis would try to remain above the fray, and that his “objective in this debate will be to lay out his vision to beat Joe Biden, reverse American decline, and revive the American Dream.”

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